User:The Draziw/Archive

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Hi, welcome to RuneScape Clans Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the File:Clan quest.png page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Zerouh (Talk) 03:53, May 28, 2010

Assistance
Which picture? I would be happy to help. ゼロウ 13:52, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

The Picture at the top of the table.
If you look at the table, there is text mixed into the box


 * There you are, that should fix it. ゼロウ 17:24, May 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Of course, glad I could help. ゼロウ 18:11, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Zerouh's Triumvirate
Hello there! I have seen you're clan (the Questing Clan) and might I say that it looks excellent and well developed. In fact, it is so developed, that it would make a great addition to the massive Union:Zerouhs Triumvirate. We are a peace-seeking, intelligence spreading organization who have united over 10 clans. If you would like to join, please reply back on my talk page.Red Dog31 16:32, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Charter
It's not a clan page, which is why I moved it to be a sub-page to your clan. As it relates directly to The Questing Clan, it needs to be there and not as a seperate article. Thanks, 05:50, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Charter
If we follow that logic, everything that is on this wikia should have the heading Clan:ARTICLE NAME. That seems slightly moronic.... The charter is not a clan, to name it Clan:The Questing Clan of Runescape/Charter is clutter and a poor page heading.

If we followed that logic, we could bypass the runescapeclans.wikia in everyway and simply place the prefix Clan:Article name on all of our articles and create the pages in the main runescape wikia. The point of having a clan wikia is we already know most of the pages are Clan: XXXX...... The fact that we have that prefix at the front of an article is so that the pages can be easily catagorized in the main index. This Charter page however does not meet that need.The.draziw 06:04, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Having the article as a sub-page both links it to the clan and helps us reduce categorical clutter. I believe that one of the reasons that this wiki was created was that the main RuneScape wiki did not want anything to do with clans. Thanks, 12:37, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Just make sure that when you mark a page for deletion that it meets the speedy deletion criteria and that you add the D template to the page with a reason for deletion. Also, by marking a clan as disbanded it leads people to assume that you have spoken to the owner of the clan and confirmed it as such, since some clans do not include themselves on the RuneScape clans database and choose to use Friends Chats instead. Thanks, 18:58, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Aye. Check Clan Name, RSOF, Runehead, Zybez, Past edit on Wikia, all listed member names. The.draziw 19:02, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

We've been over this. If it's affiliated with a clan, it needs to be a subpage. 02:40, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Mess
Hey there - I've noticed you've made quite a mess with some pages that you have made. Firstly, I have deleted a ton of redirects! So, please stop moving pages. Secondly, I've put all your pages Under "Clan:The Questing Clan of Runescape" as a sub page. The following is this list:


 * Clan:The Questing Clan of Runescape/Event Thugs United
 * Clan:The Questing Clan of Runescape/The Quest List
 * Clan:The Questing Clan of Runescape (Your main page)

Also, you are not a union - therefore you shouldn't need any pages with this namespace (I've deleted them, and anything that redirects to them). So, in the future - you are only allowed to add clan subpages under your already established clan page, which is under the "Clan:" namespace. Please keep this in mind as further edits (and moving pages) such as the above will be classified as spamming. If you have any questions, feel free to ask and if you have a reason for your actions please comment below or on my talk page so we can sort this out - Thanks, 06:57, August 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well it's up to you to choose whether it's a clan or union - You can't have both. The pages The Quest List and Event Thugs United, are both required to be subpages under your main page (whether that is Clan or Union, not both), because they have no use to other clans and unions, and are only useful to your clan/union. You are only able to create an article (a page that doesn't have a namespace) when it has use to multiple clans and unions. For example, a page about a place, monster or activity. Thanks, 01:56, August 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Firstly, we have a category full of the wiki's articles here. And I am telling you that anything to do with an individual clan or union is required to be under a namespace. The main RSW does exist, and that's why we don't create an article about every little thing in RuneScape, but we do create articles about things to do with clans and unions as a whole, like the Clan Citadels and the activities that clans are able to participate in. Now, if they are two different entities, then you can create them. But, yesterday when I cleaned up the mess of redirects, you had a ton of different names under both clan and union namespaces which redirected to eachother. Lastly, you didn't have a union page made. It was a redirect to your clan page. Therefore:


 * You are able to create a clan and union page, but they have to be different pages
 * Any and all pages about either the clan or the union has to be a subpage under the associated clan or union
 * You are not allowed to have unnecessary redirects to the pages

Thanks, 02:30, August 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Make a union page, then make a subpage under the union page? 03:38, August 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Either don't make the page at all, or ask the clans' permission to make the page. I don't see why it is such an issue, and why you can't just make the subpage, personally. 05:40, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

You seem to compare this wiki to RSW a lot. We are very, very different from the RSW, and most wikis, in the way that we work, edit and organise our content. Firstly, the only pages that are required to be written in third person (and have to be anti-biased) are articles (pages on bosses, activities, places etc). Otherwise, clan and union pages aren't moderated really at all, as long as they don't have inappropriate content and we don't get complaints. Lastly, we don't have a big enough community to check for factual information on every single clan page. So, I don't appreciate how your scrutinising the way this wiki works and complaining about how we don't do things the same way as the RSW. I've told you how this wiki operates, so it's now up to you on what you do. Again, if you have any further questions feel free to ask. Thanks, 06:44, August 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, well.... I'm fairly new to the wiki myself (just over a year), and the "Clan:" and "Union:" namespaces were introduced very early on to help organise. Basically, from what I understand, to help tell the difference between a union, clan and article. Visit disputed to answer the next question. The majority of the pages on this wiki are normally made and forgotten about. Saying that, most (80%) are normally well written with good formating with a decent amount of information. So, no - I wouldn't think that the majority of our pages would be able to classify into the speedy deletion category. Lastly, we don't have enough editors to be able to check every clan page for their activity. This is a big issue within this wiki but there has been no way for us to successfully check every clan for authenticity without doing each page separately. Plus, as you said - there are multiple places where a clan could be active, and we would have to "tick the box" for each one, to be able to do a thorough check. But, we do have our disbanded template which is used to be able to keep well written clan pages on the wiki. Anything else? :P 22:48, August 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you want a major policy/part of the wiki to change you can do it by making a forum page. You can do this by making a page with the "Forum:" namespace at the front of the topic. For your second idea: I believe around 50% of people who create clan pages on this wiki are anonymous users, which don't get such emails - so that idea wouldn't work. 08:14, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

WhoHOOO! New siggy! 20:38, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Redirects
Please do not create so many useless redirects to your clan page. One is fine for something like "Questing Clan of Runescape" that redirects but not for various other things. I have taken the liberty of deleting the other ones. Please let me know if you have any concerns or questions. 03:24, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why did you re-create the pages, that Zerouh (1) asked you not make and (2) he deleted? This is now a warning. Please do not make useless redirect pages, as per above. Thanks, 06:31, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

The Questing Clan of Runescape aka "Clan Quest" has been formally recognized in multiple manners as Clan Quest and Quest Clan by JAgex LTD via Facebook, Twitter and on the Main Runescape main page. THe redirect Pages CLan Quest and Quest clan are specific name commonly recognized by the Runescape Clan COmmunity. Using these names as redirects is appropriate uses. Please review the RuneScape Clans Wiki:Assume good faith article regarding deletion of content. Given that the names are specifc to the Clan, The content is not vandlism, and the Redirects are commmonly recognized associative terms for the main article the redirect pages should stand.

I have not recreated the Two redirect Pages QC and CQ which are the initials of The Questing CLan of Runescapes most commonly accepted abreviations. I am not sure why there is a need to delete these, but I am not overly worried about their recreation. 14:08, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. Do not recreate pages. I have deleted "Clan Quest" and "Quest Clan" again. There is one page, the formal name. Then you may say on your clan page that it has other names, building various other pages just linking back to one page is not a very good idea. Do not recreate the pages. I would also like to ask you to stop excessively meddling with so many other pages. It makes it very confusing as an administrator here and a little overwhelming, it may also disrupt the natural editors of those pages. 22:46, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal
He appears to have stopped after the warning was givin. If he does it again I'll block him thou. 17:55, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism
You had best come into some sense very quickly, you are now on the verge of being a nuisance to myself, my fellow wiki members, and the community as a whole. This is your last and final warning: STOP your vandalism and do not continue targeting individuals and pages just to disrupt work here. You will stick to editing community pages and your own pages from now on. If I see one tiny edit on any page that does not belong to you you will be banned. After some time has passed and you have demonstrated you are capable of maintaining yourself I will lift this restriction. Think very carefully about what you respond with. Do we have an understanding? I am in no mood to play games here and am sick of having to fix your errors and blatant edits. 22:59, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Please explain any error or vandalism in any edit I have made. You are speaking in plurals, please explain?
 * You are blatanly disregarding the Runescape Clan Wiki policies with regard to Articles that you are the author. Why are the rules regarding the Namespaces not pertinant to you? Why is it that when an article has disputed information, you (1) Delete the discussion page, and (2) Remove the appropriate Template.
 * The Template for stop is
 * 23:10, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

It is the Mark of a Leader.
I actually told you that you cannot edit any pages besides community pages (Forums, discussions, etc.) or your own clan page. And what was the basis for this? Because I placed "Information Disputed Template" on an Article where these is information disuputed but you happen to be the author? Or perhaps because I made redirects in such a Manner as to fullfill Jagex Practice. Or perhaps because I question your own Tirumvirate article which is in breach of the issue for which you keep deleting the redirect. That is hypocritical.'''There is a point at which "Assume Good Faith" is no longer applicable, this is past that point. '''And what is that exacty? You have failed to direct me to any edit that cannot be explained as correcy if you were not the article's original editor. '''It is not equal to institute these redirect pages, it gives your clan "unfair traffic" or however you'd like to call it. The same can be said for you sir. It also makes it more confusing for editors who see these pages and it disrupts the casual flow of information on this site.''' That doesn't even make sense.

You are disrupting and targeting groups as well as being a genuine bother to the people who spend time organizing this Wiki. Who am I disrupting? And how am I being a bother? Expecting a certain level of qualitity is a bother? That makes the editors of this wiki sound incredibly lazy... I don't think they would aprpeciate you talking about them in this way.  I have no idea what you are talking about with the namespaces issue, but "Category" pages are not a namespace page, they are a category. Can you read? The Namescape Clan: Before "Clan:The Questing Clan of Runescape" is what I am talking about. That is not a category page. I will delete templates I see fit when it is clear to me that it is A) pointless B) clearly designed to target against certain groups or individuals or C) when it is not necessary at the time. That is not the proper procedure. I would argue that given there are 3 active admins at the moment, a person who is not the primary editor of an article should make that decision. You are abusing that power. Are we quite finished here? I'd not realized we had started. You are acting inappropriately. I am not. What is it we are supposed to be finishing? You deleting discussion pages? You holding certain editors above others? You telling people not to edit a wiki? Sure I am willing to help you stop all of that silliness anytime. ゼロウ Talk __UT 23:15, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I have made no incorrect edits. Only edits that are contrary to your wishes. However this is not how the wikia system is designed. All editors are equal. {C}{C}{C In response to My Edits, you blatantly disregard established Wikia Policy by deleting discussion pages and removeing templates from pages of which you are the author. {C}{C}{C You Delete Redirect pages which are 100% Pertinant to the Primary article & Are currently not used by another article so as to cause confusion. {C}{C}{C You threaten me with punishement because I have taken the initiative and made NECCESSARY edits to many articles that have not been edited in over 2 years. You also accuse me of actions which may "disrupt the natural editors of those pages." on pages which have not receieved edits in YEARS. {C}{C}{C You remove your own Talk page in response to my response to you (that's actually kinda hilarious)

Common dude, lets use that intellect you claim governs your Triumvirate.

I think you are abusing your power here sir.

23:35, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Let me correct some very wrong points you made. 1) I am not a part of the Triumvirate and I have no affiliation to it. Have you read it's name? That is your affiliation to it. I don't particularly care about the triumvirate... Other than it has a redirect page, and it does not have a namespace (this is very unfair given that every other clan or union is required to keep a namespace, and you won't allow me to make redirect to my clan.) 2) You are very inconsiderately trying to target me, my prior pages, and my current pages. You did not think this through that people would notice that you are targeting one individual or one group but that is, as you would say, against Wiki policy. What? I have made how many edits today? The only reason I am even talking to you is because you keep deleting pertinant redirects. Why do you keep deleting them? There is no logic. 3) As I said, I will delete discussion pages and removing disputed status for things that have already been resolved or are clearly not serious as yours have been. I had not seen your message on the VFD page. Can we remove the section regarding the Page in question so as to avoid confusion? If I were truly abusing my power you would have been banned, I am, whether you see it or not, trying to help you and trying to show you what you were doing wrong and how to fix it. You have not shown me that I am doing anything other than saying "stop vandalising" and "Don't edit any articles" Now, I am quite tired of this conversation, so would please give me the courtesy and say that you understand and that we can be finished here? I understand what you meant about page with . If you had refrained from breaking wiki policy and NOT deleted the discussion page there and instead responded in any manner that the issue was resolved and closed I would have left it alone. It would be very much appreciated by more than just us two. :P I got more articles to fix. Better things to do than post in convo on your Talk page just for you to remove it. BOLD 23:42, August 26, 2011 (UTC) Normal 23:52, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Please do not ever combine your statement with mine again. It makes it dreadful to read. It doesn't have a namespace because it is a category page, it is a category, all category pages have no namespace, many other clans have category pages which also don't have namespaces. I don't think I can be clearer about that. I am not a member of the Triumvirate and while I was affiliated in my past, I am no longer, you had best take that into note. You have targeted my pages, my previous pages, and myself in particular. The Triumvirate category page and the Intellecual Government page being notable evidence for that. I would still like to refer to that discussion so I can view what needs changed. Now please leave myself, my pages, and other peoples pages alone. In a few days, once this has cooled down, I will contact you again and state you may edit other pages again. Do we have an understanding on that subject? 23:59, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Please do not ever combine your statement with mine again.


 * My Appologies
 * It makes it dreadful to read.


 * I agree
 * It doesn't have a namespace because it is a category page, it is a category, all category pages have no namespace, many other clans have category pages which also don't have namespaces.


 * So If I make a Category page and Place my Clan's information within that, it would be acceptable to not have the Clan: Namespace before the article title? That seems slightly dumb, but thanks for the tip.
 * I don't think I can be clearer about that. I am not a member of the Triumvirate and while I was affiliated in my past, I am no longer, you had best take that into note.


 * Why are we still talking about this? I KNOW that you dont play runescape. I KNOW you aren't in that Triumvirate. It says so in your user page... I think you misunderstand me for a troll good sir. I lead a Jagex Sanctioned clan. You know that there are only 11 right? Skill Prodigy, Wilderness Guardians, Fast Free Double Nats, The Caped Carousers, Clan Quest, Oblivion, The Titans, 3Bo, The Pink Patrons of Pain, & The Gladiatorz, The Sabres. I have other things to worry about. I am a key contributor to the Clan Leader Forum. I am trying to encourage their use of this wiki. They all say to me "That wiki's admins aren't friendly" And now you are saying to me... "I'm not in that Tirumviraite >=( Don't make anymore edits!"


 * You have targeted my pages, my previous pages, and myself in particular.


 * You have given two pages. I appologized for the confusion on the one. I have edited 50+ Pages today. You consider that targeting?
 * The Triumvirate category page and the Intellecual Government page being notable evidence for that. I would still like to refer to that discussion so I can view what needs changed.


 * So.... Keep the Template page, but remove it from the primary discussion page? Does what we both want...
 * Now please leave myself, my pages, and other peoples pages alone.


 * I have only made minor gramar edits to pages edited within the last year. All pages I have marked for deletion or speedy deletion have not been edited in over 1 year. I don't think editing those pages harms anyone... I have no intention of returning to the political theory page. Nor do I have a particular interest in the Triumvirate page as you have explained it as a category page, and therefor exempt from standard procedure. I will ensure that My Clan's Page is placed in a category page as well. 00:36, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * In a few days, once this has cooled down, I will contact you again and state you may edit other pages again. Do we have an understanding on that subject? 23:59, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I would like to continue editing if you dont mind. This wiki is in need of serious work. I am not sure how it is overwhelming for you... I simply mark pages needed for speedy deletion (I noticed you handled the five or so I marked today, thanks!) and any editor with administrative abilities handles it. Grammatical fixes, etc, are handled as needed. Just as I did with the 50+ Pages I edited. You only brought me issue with 4. 2 I was the author, 2 you were the author. The other 40+ seemed to be suitably edited ;) 00:36, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

{C}{C}{C & this is the part where Excel goes out of silence. Draziw, leave Zerouh's pages alone... He really doesn't like them being touched... As for you Zerouh, telling an editor not to edit just because you don't like the edits, bull crap. Removing discussions, bull crap. Using your B'Crat powers to put down an edit dispute, bull crap. You should have contacted a third party, Mini, myself, or any other editor and asked them for input. You DO NOT PUT DOWN ARGUMENTS WITH ADMIN POWERS. 00:06, August 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I haven't put down any argument. I'd also advise you not to get involved Excel, I'm already regretting getting involved in the first place even though it was necessary. I am putting my foot down on this matter as I have zero toleration for this sort of thing. I am telling him to stick with his own page for a few days, I'm not telling him not to edit, I'm asking him not to disrupt other people's pages. Now The.Draziw, do we have an understanding? 00:09, August 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * The.draziw, please stop adding the VfD template to older clans, you cannot use the template simply because it has gone without edit for a moderate/long period of time. Also, there's no need to discourage users from editing, simply state the user's mistake and tell him/her your side of the issue; if the issue can't be solved with a simple discussion you should not continue to argue, but rather, talk to another member of the Wiki and get his/her view on the issue. Cheers, 00:15, August 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you look at the VfD Pages I have nominated, that is not the primary reason for their deletion suggestion. They are of the same (or lesser) quality of work as others suggested, and they are up for VOTE. It isn't like I am going around deleting articles, right? The purpose of the VfD template is to notify the community and allow them to vote. The fact that I visited over 300 articles today (i'm willing to bet no other editor has done that in a while) means I have seen all the REALLY BAD articles. I am not asking for imediate response from the community or admins. SImply placing the articles which should be deleted into the correct locations. 00:36, August 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * That is precisely what I am attempting to reach an understanding on with him. That I am asking him not to touch any pages that are not his for some time. At least until all of this is settled. The.draziw, you have to understand I am not just referring to my own pages, I am referring to the pages you put VfDs on (like Wannabe mentioned), and the pages that you put information on that the owner may not have wanted. I am asking that you please step back a little for some time, otherwise it can be rather untidy here and, as I said, a hassle for the support team here. 00:19, August 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I Have made NO additions to pages. I have made no Removals of any pages. I have added Templates to pages that meet the speedy deletion requirements. (They have since been deleted, which shows I was correct). I made minor grammatical or editorial corrections to pages but have in NO WAY edited content! I fully understand how annoyed I would be if someone edited the content of my clan's page. I wouldn't do that. Review the edits I have made, you will see I am truthful. 00:36, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * "otherwise it can be rather untidy here and, as I said, a hassle for the support team here" This I can understand! It is hard to keep up with an editor making 50+ edits, making many nominations for deletion, etc. I am simply observing that I have requested no timetable. I am doing the brunt of the work, so that the staff of this wikia may administer decisions as needed. (As was done with the speedy deletion candidates). 00:36, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

FORGOT MY SIgnature 00:49, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * The talk page he is referring to was blank until the nonsense was added, when nonsense is added to a page (including a talk page) it is deleted. That is all I was doing with regards to this matter. I was only going to use any powers to settle it if it continued to escalate and he did continue to harass pages I had asked him not to edit on. I apologize if that was not expressed as it should have been. 00:32, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * I am refering to the Talk Page on the Intellectual Government Page. I posted an explenation and link to the VFD when I originally placed the Template on that page. You deleted this.
 * I posted a "Why was this discussion page deleted?" on the intellectual government page. This was deleted.
 * This template was removed becuase Zuroah said the discussion was over. I did not see this notice becasue it was posted on Vfd, not on the talk page.
 * I appolgoized for creating the Talk Page multiple times.
 * I posted a on the Zuroah's Triumvirate Article. I placed a question on the Talk page for that article asking "Why does this article not have a namespace like other unions?". That talk page was deleted.
 * I did NOT post again
 * Please Provide a link with evidence of this "he did continue to harass pages I had asked him not to edit on" After you told me not to edit pages I did not. The only pages that I created were TWO REDIRECT Pages, which i am still saying should exist.
 * Clan:The Questing Clan of Runescape should have redirects:
 * Clan Quest
 * Quest Clan

Continued From Above
Let me just put this out there (partially because the previous discussion was very hard to keep track of with edits in the middle of things and what not), I believe we got off on the wrong start, perhaps we misunderstood what we were saying to each other. This is what I am asking-
 * 1) Please don't edit pages that aren't yours unless you have permission from the "owner"/"main editor" of the page, or an administrator. You may edit them if there is a clear problem, but just be careful. It can get confusing and people just usually don't like things getting altered on their pages.
 * 2) If you could refrain from huge, mass editing for some time. Editing fifteen different pages at a time makes (or so) it difficult for administrators to easily check the recent edits and make sure nothing needs to be dealt with.
 * 3) Before requesting to delete a page, just make sure it is really something that should definitely be deleted. Even old pages (unless they have very little information, like one or two sentences) are usually not deleted.
 * 4) Please do not put redirects to your clan page, it just isn't practical.
 * 5) And last, just try to go with instinct, if it doesn't feel like something is right or if you have a question on something, just ask. Myself, Excel, and MinigameGod are all here, as are several other very supportive community members.

I do apologize for any harsh comments made, I just wanted to make sure my point was made. Anyway, those are the simple things I'm asking/point out. Otherwise, please do continue your work, just try to work so it's easier and better for all of the community here. Perhaps I should have started with something like this, those are the points I am trying to make. Thank you. 00:54, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Continued From Above
No Appology is neccessary. We aren't little kids playing at games and someone got a boo boo. We are playing with words, and those don't hurt. If the discussion page wasn't deleted most of this encounter would probably have been avoided. I missed your comment on Vfd, remade the and you thought I was vandalising.
 * 1) I have not made any content edits. I have made minor grammatical or editorial edits to better assist in article qualitity and readibility. I fully understand how annoying it is to have someone chance the content of a clan's article (Some noob edited clan uniform from White Equipement to White Knight Equipment, completely disregarding Desert Robes and other white outfits...).
 * 2) I'll edit when I can. Would it be helpful if I made a subpage like User:The.draziw/RecentEdits with pages and edit changes to better facilitate administrative limitations?
 * 3) Yup. I have read the requirements for deletion. Read the pages I have nominated, there are none that do not meet the requirments.
 * 4) I am ok with not making redirects, but I am not happy with what appears to be unfair management of some articles over others. I DON'T want the article Clan:The Questing Clan of Runescape to have that Namespace at the beginning if another union or clan article is not required. What is needed for me to create a category page and place it as the home for my main page and still be within the policy limitations of this wiki?
 * 5) Look at MinigameGod's Talk page. We have had LONG Conversations. I have had passing discussions with Excel. I fully understand that there are more experienced editors available to help me. I am NOT new to wiki editing. But I am new to editing in this wiki (sorta :P ).

I do not like hypocrisy (can't even spell it!) and another clan with a redirect causes me annoyance if I can't have one. I see a Union (which happens to share your user name) that has a redirect, I want one too, and don't like it when mine are deleted (especiialy since mine are 100% valid). 02:38, August 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Would you please give the name of the Union redirect page, if there is an unnecessary redirect I will promptly delete it as I do hold to this policy. It's just that we do not just make redirects to clan pages, if everyone could do it it would be much harder to manage so we don't let anyone do it except in very special circumstances. If you ever catch that some clan or page has an unnecessary redirect do let me know as I will delete it (unless it has a valid reason like for community pages or something). 03:12, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Humor
lol, lots of ppl in AoS like diff gods. AoS is nothing but a name we just keep it because we've had it forever. 15:30, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

LOL! 17:48, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

BTW the core for my signature is available if you want one tht expands :P Template:Expanding Signature 18:24, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Template doesn't work their.. :( It uses my css classes. Defined in mediawiki, which they don't have. If they imported a couple classes it would work however. 19:04, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

The css needed would have to be dumped in MediaWiki:Wikia.css which is admin only :| 19:13, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Also if you want more native image file support I can bump it up from 2 to up to 4 or 6. 19:15, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

If you got connections on rsw here's the code that powers it:

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lol... Forget dimigod I must be the god of templates... lol. I'll write up some documentation on it lol. 20:22, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

My documentation broke something... One minute while I figure this out... 20:36, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Eh... Something is screwed up with the tag... so... just go to /doc. 20:42, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

There we go... It was a spacing issue... 20:44, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Headline text
22:10, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

It's all good. Corrected the post that he made and he fixed it. 22:23, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Update
 '''Hi, Can I get you to have a look at this page and contribute your ideas to the suggestion made. Thank you,''' 23:05, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

I approve... Go ahead and write your article in like ur sandbox or somin. Then post it in the template tommorrow when we got to Sept. 18:14, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Player Mod?
Dude, how'd you become a player mod? I've reported so many bots and yet I haven't gotten asked yet. 19:41, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

"Given your significant contributions to the Runescape clan community as a whole, both on the runescape forums, and in game- as well as your excessive participation in the Runescape Event Community- as well as your involvement and actions in the Quest Forums and your hosting of multiple quest help events and quest weekends, we would like to invite you as a member of our team."

All I can say is, play hard, play nice, play fair, and people in charge will notice.

14:31, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Draziw I see you a lot on the clan leader forum and was just wondering how your clan's citadel has been doing? I'm just a little curious because I'm a leader of the Rogue Ninja Civilization, and we're having a pretty tough time keeping up the activty, we're even thinking about tossing the citadel project aside. Right now we are half way through upgrading to the tier 4 citadel, which I doubt we will be able to accomplish by tuesday. What are your thoughts?

P.S I was part of the Caped Carousers for awhile, questing clans are really cool ^.^

04:52, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, we do accept just about anyone (although we are very serious about keeping out trouble makers and trolls) however, I don't think the levels of members have much to do with activity. My personal opinion is citadels really aren't that much fun :P We've been trying to keep it as interesting as possible by doing fun events while we skill but that can only go so far. In the end we are working on it for cosmetic reasons which just isn't quite enough of a good reason for most regular players.

Being a quest maniac myself, I love "unlocking" every aspect of the game, which makes being part of a questing clan pretty cool when it comes to building a nice citadel I bet ^.^ Anyways, good luck to you, hopefully we stay motivated enough to at least keep our citadel from degrading :P 01:35, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Goodbye 04:49, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

featured clan dragon hart
thanks you sir for the help on the vendalizing its all good now :-)

ok i change the middel link and its ready to go on the main page i tryed to make the photo a linkable one i could not figer how to do it so i left it as a photo but removed the middel link i seen the read more and it takes people to the page

and im am sorry if i messed the template up. thank you so much for your help getting it to the main page Tobann. 06:24, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

alsome
dude you are alsome it looks really really good and thank you so much for the help and also thanks for making the photo linkable im in aww its aslome you really need to get the admin job. oh ya im the clan leader of dragon hart if you would like to be allies let me know ok ill place you name on my page.