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Could you please block 58.173.92.59 for vandalism? Thanks! 05:48, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

how do i set up a clan on this site?

Update
 '''Hi, Can I get you to have a look at this page and contribute your ideas to the suggestion made. Thank you,''' 20:49, August 15, 2011 (UTC) No worries, hope you had fun. 13:23, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Hiya! The redirects occured because the articles were changed from their initial naming incorrectly. As is stated IN THE ARTICLES both of these initiatives are not specific to the Questing CLan of runescape. Posting either of the redirected articles as subpages of the Questing CLan of runescape is INCORRECT.

They should be called:

The Quest List

Event Thugs United

Also, Clan Quest functions as the union name for 11 clans which have been absorbed in the single entity. While it operates with its own clan channel, it is also a union, and as such many of the subpages that will be created during the course of our articles creation may (and should) have the Union heading.

I understand the use of Clan: before an article title, as it places the article in the "All Clan Articles' section of this wikia. However, neither of the two redirected pages are solely specific to the Questing Clan, DO NOT need to appear in that section, and should be address as their original titles were created.  The.draziw 15:26, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Why would anyone create an article on this wikia then? Given that the main Runescape wikia exists, there is no reason any non-clan article would be created on this forum. Are you saying that EVERY article on this wikia possesses the Heading "Clan:" or "Union:"? That seems incrediblt dumb, no? It seems fairly obvious that any article on the clan wikia is about a clan or union... Or perhaps you are impying that people should create articles not related to clans... (in the clan wikia)...

Regarding our organizations status as a clan or union, our governmental structure and constitution are outlined to allow for both. I did not realize it was within the authority of this wikia's administrators to force a governmental imperitive upon a community.

There is a clan with the name of Clan Quest.

There is a union with the Name of Clan Quest.

Clan Quest is a portion of the union.

The intents of the authors of the articles is to provide details for both entities. The.draziw 02:17, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

"You are not allowed to have unnecessary redirects to the pages"

This was unintentional... (Notice I never argued about the stupid number of redirects.) The two threads this entire discussion are in reference too involve 3 clans total. However are not specific to the Clan Quest union.

Event Thugs United

The Quest List

Both articles are colaborative efforts inluding Clan Quest, Knights of the Abyss, Wolf's Eye, and the Caped Carousers, Jovial Rovers, Diary of Questers, and a multitude of other clans. To place them under the Questing Clan would be a false presentation. How does the current system account for situations like this?

Forgot siggy... The.draziw 03:27, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I could understand that suggestion. But the Two pages I am discussing aren't part of a union's endeavor.

Example: Quest Fest is an event hosted once a year by the questing clans of runescape: Clan Quest, Questers, Questers of Gielinor, Diary of Quest, The Caper Carouesers, The Jovial Rovers, etc. This is not a union. But to place this event under a single clan would be an incredible insult to the rest.

Thoughts?

The.draziw 04:47, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Now you're just being silly. >.>

I guess I could understand your suggestion of not creating the article. I think I may have to practice the regretable activity of not creating additional content on this wikia. I can simply place articles on another similarly named wikia and direct a link as needed. This saves this wikia's admins the headache, but also diminishes the valid content they are providing. meh.

Next your gonna tell me that I should place Runefest as a subcategory of clan quest because we had 11 people attend. I could understand having a subpage that is a perspective of a larger article from a specific clan's point of view. Clan:The Questing Clan of Runescape/Runefest. But then are you going to try and tell me that there shouldn't be a Runefest Article?

OR WORSE

Are you implying that all the articles on this wikia are not impartial and attempt to convey non-biased information as is the standard expected from Wikia? Every article should be told from a third-person omniescient perspective, so as to convey the information as accurately as possible. If this standard of quality is maintained, the need for subpages is significantly reduced as the need to limit bias perspective becomes a minor issue. If all the articles on this wikia are being told from first person perspectives, the need for the editors to place subcategories for specific clans is imperitive so as to correctly convey a biased perspective. If a thread is properly written, then this subcategorical need is non-existant.

I do understand that maintaining a standard of qualitiy is difficult. However, and this is primarily my point, the design of the subcaterory was created by the original administrators to allow for bias threads to be accurately labeled. The fact that most editors of this wikia lack a non-bias perspective is not justification for incorrectly titling all future threads. Look at how the Main runescape wikia is edited. They maintain the third person perspective, and allow for dispute on any non-factual information presented in an arguement. THis wikia lacks that tool. I could claim that my clan was the largest, had won the most wars, has been jagex recognized 1000 times, and has the best website in the world (not just for gaming, even better than runescape.com). Is there any check of this information? NO. Why? Because the subcategorical labeling of every article allows for the display that an article is biased, because most of the articles are authored by the clans they are about so most of the articles are never read, and because the wikia has diverted from a factual base to a location of advertising and posturing.

Why is it a big deal? Because it is incorrect information.

(sorry for the incredible length, I do tend to ramble)

The.draziw 06:09, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

My appologies if I appear to be overly scrutinizing, not my intention. My comparison to the RSW is primarily based in that it is the only other wikia that has a significant community and direct contact with this wikia.

Please realize, it is not my intent to scrutinize. Here is something about me. I lead CLan Quest, which is one of 3 clans ever in all of runescape to have been formally recognized and supported by Jagex ON THE MAIN PAGE of Runescape.com TWICE. I am one of the first 25 players who was granted Clan Leader Forum access on the Runescape official forums. I have contact IN THE REAL WORLD with over 100 clan leaders. My communication with RSB and RSC is constant, though my current clan affiliation is a questing clan. I have been involved with over 25 clans in my runescape career. I have lead 9 Clans. I have been in 2 CLans that were ranked #1 in RSC and 4 clans ranked #1 in RSB. I have had access to, though I gave it up due to inactivity, to the The Fansite Admin Forum. I have been playing runescape since March 2001.

Why do I mention this?

I like clans.

Here are my questions, can you answer them?:

Why is "Clan:" placed in front of all artices with clans in them? Given the ability to tag an article with with the description of Clan, union, article, etc... there doesn't really NEED to be there other than its a practice from before categories, and the system was never udated and has stagnated and become habit. Is there another reason? Even the idea of organizational usefulness is contradicted as the index for all categories now appears cluttered and is primarily composed of articles starting with C and U. Obviously its a clan or union, we are in the RSCW.

'''If information were to be disputed, what would be the correct procedure for that? ''' Honestly I haven't really been able to find a template for "The information within this article is being disputed, visit the talk page for more information." Does this wikia have one? Is that not what the admins prefer? Would it be acceptable to simply make the edits?

Deletion of "Low or No" Quality Pages? The Speedy Deletion Candidates page does describe what is needed for a page to be tagged for deletion. If an editor were to check all 1000 articles of this wikia, would they be expected to mark the majority of the articles for deletion, edit them to increase quality, or disregard them entirely?

Dead Clans keeping pages up without end? There is a rather large amount of clans on this wikia that do not have the Dead Clan logo on top of their article. If a clan is not on the Runescape official registry, is not on runehead, Does not have a current thread on the RSOF or ZYBEZ, the article has not been edited within a year, and there is no existitg offsite, etc is that not valid for placement as dead unless disputed? Or is this issue just due to the fact that the minimal editors available lack the time to make these checks? =\

PLEASE NOTE: I am being so obnoxious in my questions, because I am trying to ensure I understand before I accidently break everything :P  If there is no explenation for my questions, I ask you, why? If we do not have a reason.... then perhaps it shouldn't be.

THanks for the Help! I know you're Aussie so I will wait to hear from you this evening.The.draziw 15:52, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

RE: "Okay, well.... I'm fairly new to the wiki myself (just over a year), and the "Clan:" and "Union:" namespaces were introduced very early on to help organise." My understand for this is because at the Wikia's creation there was no means of specifying an Article category (Now found at bottoms of every article. This feature is a fairly recent update to the wikia programing and was not available on any wikia until ~2009.  This wikia was formed MUCH earlier than that.  NO?). To better assist in organization, and to allow for a list of all articles to be directed via link on the main page ("View all Clan Articles" link or the "View all Union Articles" link) articles were prefixed so as to easily allow for categorization without the category feature.

However, given the ability to designate a category type, this practice is outdated. How would I go about discussing a policy change with the community and administrators? Remove a couple prefix's, ensure the "clan" description is included in the category discription placed on the bottom of the article, and that article is easily accessible by clicking the category sorter "clan". You could even direct to those category indexs on the main page, similar to how we direct to the title indexs now. Does that make sense?

Not a lot of work to change a couple article titles, and the useability and inclusion of the wikias features become smoother and more user friendly.

THanks for the disputed Template... not sure why I didn't find that.

The Disbanded Template I had, and have used. Thanks. Would it not be fair to say: A clan with which we can find no activity details may be marked as disbanded and allowed to be reverted by any player. Think of it this way. If someone edits my clan's wikia article, I get an email. All the other authors are affected the same way, so if I edit their article saying disbanded, shouldn't they go "Hey, who edited my article?" Some reasonable expectation must be directed at the original authors of these articles.

I will be honest. I am seriously considering editing 20 articles a day for the next 50 days. 2 months of time, and the entire wikia's standard of quality is increased. The.draziw 02:25, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Deletion
Page wanting to be Deleted: Saradomin's Follower

Reason for wanting this page Deleted: Clan has fallen. Images have been corrupted.

Other important information: I was the owner of the clan.

Your signature (Do not delete): 82.2.128.147 13:20, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Will you check out this Forum Page for me? The.draziw 16:49, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

The Questing Clan of Runescape aka "Clan Quest" has been formally recognized in multiple manners as Clan Quest and Quest Clan by JAgex LTD via Facebook, Twitter and on the Main Runescape main page. THe redirect Pages CLan Quest and Quest clan are specific name commonly recognized by the Runescape Clan COmmunity. Using these names as redirects is appropriate uses. Please review the RuneScape Clans Wiki:Assume good faith article regarding deletion of content. Given that the names are specifc to the Clan, The content is not vandlism, and the Redirects are commmonly recognized associative terms for the main article the redirect pages should stand.

I have not recreated the Two redirect Pages QC and CQ which are the initials of The Questing CLan of Runescapes most commonly accepted abreviations. I am not sure why there is a need to delete these, but I am not overly worried about their recreation. 14:08, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Spammer/Vandal (Need Help)
User:Shanedeathlord12

Player has vandalized and Deleted content on mulitple pages INCLUDING DELETION of My User Page which is expressly forbidden in Wiki Policies. 15:44, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

hello sir i was wanting to know how would i get my caln on the main page?

Tobann

hello sir i was wanting to know how i could get m,y clan posted on the main page

tobann

Update
 '''Hi, Can I get you to have a look at this page and contribute your ideas to the suggestion made. Thank you,''' 23:03, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Feature Clan?
Would I need to leave a message with you or Excel to have a clan page reviewed for being a feature clan for September? Clan Quest 18:07, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

BA Addicts is not dead :(
I apologise if you are not the correct person to contact, I just wanted to give a heads up to one of the adminstrators to state that the Barbarian Assault Addicts is not a 'dead clan' as it claims on its page. It is still very active.

Thanks.

Disputed Content, Please Check.
Can you look at this Clan_Talk:The_Council_Revolution. And let me know what you think / take appropriate action. 14:41, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Vandals! Hurray!
Please look at: thanks 18:11, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * WE HATE SPARTA!!!
 * Forum:WE HATE SPARTA!!!

Famous For Double Natures
Previous name - Fast Free Double Natures had an interview featured on one of Jagex clan's submission page found: http://services.runescape.com/m=devblog/view_post.ws?post_id=99

Are we able to get the "Jagex featured clan" logo as these guys do: http://runescapeclans.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Clan_Quest#Feature_Clan_During_Official_Jagex_Clan_Month.2C_March_2011

Our wikia page is here: http://runescapeclans.wikia.com/wiki/Clan:Fast_Free_Double_Nats

nomination oct 10-01-11
Hello My name is tobann and i would like to nominate my clan Dragon Hart for the main page. we are a good clan with 430 members i would love to see it posted for the month of october 10/01/11 because that would be such a blessing for my clanmates to see for all the hard work that they have done thank you.

thank you

Tobann

Featured Clan
Hi,

Was just wondering if you can give my clan: Famous For Double Natures a chance to be a featured clan because a lot of energy and work has gone into our clan page located here

--Anvillll 15:37, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Featured Clan
Yes please! We would love to take that oppurtunity.

--Anvillll 16:37, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

I'll cya around dude. It's been fun. Goodbye, 04:53, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

main page
hello hey i got that done on the main page link but im not sure how to put it on Featured Clan can you help with that? thanks for your time.

Tobann. 03:59, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Can you help me?
I tried to edit the graph in the RuneScape Clans Wiki:Requests for adminship page. However it will not allow me to add anything to the table as it appears the page is blocked.... so...

Will you please include these pages in that table:

RuneScape Clans Wiki:Requests for adminship/MinigameGod RuneScape Clans Wiki:Requests for adminship/Host JD RuneScape Clans Wiki:Requests for adminship/OffsideJimothy RuneScape Clans Wiki:Requests for adminship/The.draziw 04:49, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Clan List Help
Hello

I would like to have Eternity added to the list of clans.

Here's the info:

E -  Eternity  -  100+F2P  -  F2P Wars, P2P events  -  Dutch speaking, but warring clans in every language.

Thnx

Nonkel, webmaster of Eternity

I already created a page btw.

Nonkel 14:40, October 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Handled 20:22, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Adminship
Thanks for you kind words on my talk page. Excel has stated his opinion on the RfAs I created, I was wondering if you could do so as well. Your comments on my talk page would seem to support here: RuneScape Clans Wiki:Requests for adminship/The.draziw. Can you post your statements in there for me?

Also, I nominated you. RuneScape Clans Wiki:Requests for adminship/MinigameGod Can you make the necessary statements and affirmations on that RfA to allow for your promotion. Zerouh has posted on both RfAs looking for Community perspective.

Danke 23:04, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

I am noob
Ok... This is NOT urgent.

I update community messages in the Recent Updates page. I removed Excel and placed myself in there. Why does it show Zerouh Green, you Pink, and myself Blue? Is there a setting that would allow me to change that color scheming? 03:39, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Please Delete?
Could you please remove these following Empire page?

http://runescapeclans.wikia.com/wiki/Clan:The_Empire/Please_Delete

I may have more once i finish going threw all the pages my clan doesn't use anymore.

Edit:sorry I forgot my signature :/

EmperorHester 09:47, October 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Deleted per authors request 13:47, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I'm pretty new to this wiki thing. But our clan is kinda big. We're world rank 29. I was wondering how can our clan become the featured one :). Thanks :)

Leader of the 72 Clan,

Ebram 72

Clan Wiki Page

Featured Clan
Just wondering if Famous For Double Natures is still planned to be November's featured clan? Will you need us to create a descriptive paragraph of our clan for the section?

Anvillll 03:13, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Is it alright if we send it to you at the 6th or 7th? Before the end of the weekend for sure.

--Anvillll 05:30, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Have it done. How should I send it to you?

--Anvillll 06:58, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

FFDN was best known as a company on World 36 for our service of Nature Running. As time has passed, we found ourselves making the best decision for our company to form a clan.

Now we are a vibrant community clan with a strong emphasis on events and our Citadel because we believe it will make the clan experience enjoyable for all of our members.

We welcome anyone to visit our Clan Chat, "FFDN". We would love to meet you!

--Anvillll 07:17, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Minigame, do you mind putting our banner on the top of the Featured Clan section like I have seen you do with other featured clans? It can be found on our Wikia page. Thanks :).

--Anvillll 15:06, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Bureaucrat
MinigameGod, I do so grant you, after consideration and clear desires of the community, bureaucrat status. I do trust you will use these abilities responsibly and that you can serve much better with these additional abilities. Please do not hesitate to speak with me on any matters as I will do my best to get back to you in a timely fashion. I am always very happy to assist or provide my input on a topic. Best of luck to you, and do use these powers wisely. 00:36, November 16, 2011 (UTC)