User talk:Zerouh

RE:
As you can see, there is no active community to make such decisions, otherwise this would still be open. It's basically you, me, and Red. Obviously I do not like being "dictator" but until there are enough people to actually make decisions through the consensus process I'm afraid we have no choice. I understand that you have strong feeling about Red, but he has shown since his block that he has put all that negativity behind him and, as one of our few active users, he has been a great help with maintenance and counter vandalism. 04:29, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Chia is not active. He's only edited to respond to talk page messages. It's just you, me, and Red. You are more than welcome to share your opinion with me on my talk page, but I am in charge here. 14:30, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Your opinion is duly noted, but it is quite clear that Red has cleaned up his act. If he misuses his sysop tools then obviously I will desysop him, but he hasn't done anything wrong. All of the edits he's made, including after being sysopped, have been positive and helpful. I would advise you to stop focusing on the past as a strong wiki is not possible if we hold grudges. 03:09, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

FW:Admin colors
Whenever we list the name of a sysop write it in orange and when listing a b'crat use the color green, Soldier 1033 already approved this and it has been used on a few pages already. Red Revolt 22:55, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, can you look at this page. Red Revolt 22:58, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Will do. _ゼロウ  Talk __UT  23:26, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

War.
Zerouh, I am No 3 Xaldin, also known as SOLDIER1st E. I declare war on you and your union. We, the Guardians of the Peace, will war with you on August 10th. Clan Wars Safe. Reply back if you want to prove your worth. No 3 Xaldin 17:55, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

1: I don't mind. 2: I don't really care. 3: Yes, I do know you. Zerouhs Triumvirate, a large enough union. I will not reconsider what i do, i have a lot of people behind me with this. No 3 Xaldin 21:01, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

I have read your Constitution, and I have a fair idea how you work now. We will war with you, trust me. No 3 Xaldin 22:10, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

There is no point being so organized if you do nothing. Zerouh, don't hide it, it seems you are afraid, your speech patterns suppot my point. To truely get peace, you must take action. This is our action. No 3 Xaldin 22:10, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well, according to 7 of your Constitution, anyone who openly oposses the Triumvirate will dealt with through either military or diplomatic. I am opposing you. You and your friend Chaos are trying to get me to back out of war because you will know you will lose. No point of going for peace if you don't take any action. No 3 Xaldin 14:10, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

This is not a pointless war, this is to see if you Triumvirate is actually worth something. To get peace, we need more people. You and your Triumvirate are keeping peopl without doing anything. The reason you are getting so many war threats is because you have so many enemies. No 3 Xaldin 15:19, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Zerouh, you are weak. You use words to look down on people and so do your underlings. You refuse to war with a small clan. This shows your cowardice. The world would be better without your union. I won't stop until we war and I can finally get rid of your union. Do you understand. I hope we do fight. If I get rid of you and your union, people will rejoice. No 3 Xaldin 16:11, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

If you warred with us, you could end all of this. Stop using excuses and fight. No 3 Xaldin 17:20, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

How about this. I'll call off the war if you agree you don't want to fight because you are afraid/know that you wil lose. No 3 Xaldin 18:31, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Your clan's name is kinda ironic considering you are gaurdians of peace.....gaurdians meaning you are a defensive clan, peace meaning you hate war...and yet you want to war with the triumvirate.

1: Kid, stop acting smart, nobody likes people who ACT smart. We want peace, we need power. the members in your clan are completly wasteD> Getting rid of you and your union would help us to move forward and realise our goal, punk.

2: Zerouh, you say there will be no war. I can be happy that you said it. Its time to leave this conversation alone. I can take solace in that you said no and not us. when we grow, you will realise the mistake in making us an enemy. No 3 Xaldin 18:52, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

You should know then boyo that I am not part of the universal triumvirate.

I'm curious..
I figured you were going to try to talk to Uberfuzzy about me, but are Red Revolt's accusations true?

Regardless, I should point out that Wikia staff do not involve themselves in internal wiki affairs. 22:53, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

RSC:3RR
That's one of our official policies. You and Red Revolt were engaged in a massive revert war on the main page which sets a very bad example for everyone. As punishment I am removing both of your admin rights for three days, effective immediately. Do not try this again or your admin rights will be removed permanently. If there is a disagreement about an edit, you are to work it out civilly on a talk page without continuing the revert war. You will also both post apologies on each others' talk pages and learn to get along, and realize that according to the policy I should've blocked you both for 12 hours, so consider yourselves lucky. Do I make myself clear? 19:10, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * What you said on his talk page is irrelevant. You continued reverting his edits. You're supposed to completely stop until you can work it out. 20:30, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

General apology
I want to apologize to everyone on the wikia, I have failed to do my job as an admin here. I've been a bad role-model to other users. And remember, eat your d*** c00k13s!!! ʇןoʌǝɹ pǝɹ 20:02, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Reverting Edits
That only applies to reverting 3 edits to the same page in a 24 hour time span and I don't think putting up an archaeology wiki link up there is related to a list of clans. lol. ʇןoʌǝɹ pǝɹ 02:29, August 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Look, that's why I reverted it, you re-added the unnecessary link, I don't care about legit and legitimate. ʇןoʌǝɹ pǝɹ  02:50, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Your Quotes
Zerouh, where do you have evidence to back up this claim? "Human psychology often causes us to agree with the first opinion we hear. The sad part of this is, the first opinion is rarely the true one." -ぜロウ

Try considering reading the book ''blink. ''You might realize that our first judgements are more correct than you think.

Zero or something else?
Does your name mean zero? I'm alittle confused and btw yah I'm back but not to cause trouble this wiki needs help. And I've come back to help it. As you can see if you look at my clan page I have a great know how of css (U most likely will c nothing in Internet Explorer because it doesn't support the css styles I used and there is no alternate.) Thank you

Also you appear to be quite the talkative 1 lol &#123;&#123;signature/The Excel}} 21:31, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Kool =D http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091202161032/runescapeclans/images/3/36/Armadylgodsword.gif The Excel Talk • Clan • Union 00:26, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Additional clan news
Well, it said to contact you if I believed my clan was suitable for the position... I'd like to put forward THIS recent event by the Wilderness Guardians for consideration :)

WG Keanu 21:13, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I thought it did O.o in any case it's the section on RuneFest 2010, which is 5.2.5 London, England (RuneFest)

WG Keanu 19:47, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Formal Declaration of War
"The Army of Saradomin, Thee Lost Knightmare Fellowship, Amanecer, Sub Zero, Guardians of the Peace, Deja Vu, Rune Knights, Prodigy and Team Falcon, challenge you and your union to war. We are dissatisfied with your union and the negative impact it has caused to many people; we are not here to answer meager questions about logic, we are not here to watch more calamity occur, we are here to fight." -- ʇןoʌǝɹ pǝɹ  23:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC) Uh Zerouh, I may be the person that these "boastful allegations" came from, but nonetheless, you just PWNED Revolt! Nice!Red Dog31 02:42, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is what worries me, members of UT have gloated about how Anarchy Dies has never lost a war but you are a strictly peaceful union, so the two statements contradict each other. Also, if there was no problem with UT then why would the clans listed above all disagree with your past actions and want to war. On a side note, what's the point of a peaceful union on RuneScape where the leaders don't even play RS, nor have any union wide events, I mean if you were a skilling union that doesn't war that would be acceptable. ʇןoʌǝɹ pǝɹ  01:00, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, some of us are a part of you. ;) ʇןoʌǝɹ pǝɹ  01:07, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, you want constructive criticism? Well here it is, we don't like how some of your members make false allegations, boast about disputable claims and pressure newer clans. I can't be troubled to answer more, there are more templates to be made and more pages to clean up. ʇןoʌǝɹ pǝɹ  01:54, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * It was a war declaration, it wasn't supposed to talk this time, I can't be annoyed to hunt down something to further your union. Figure out what's wrong, your an idealist. Gl. ʇןoʌǝɹ pǝɹ  02:08, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, umm, let's get this straight, I didn't call for war, I'm just the messenger. Also, if you want to know so badly, evidence can come from looking at your block logs, when TrollinDaWiki vandalized Stellar Stop you blocked him/her for 1 week and he repeated the offense multiple times on different accounts but you still only punished him for 1 week, but when someone blanks your page they are banned for 2 weeks; another thing I have seen, not recently but a few months ago, you and Red Dog31 spammed the authors of newer clan pages asking them to join your union, but if they declined you continued on with the discussion when it was obvious that they wanted to be left alone, a good example of this would come from the Skill Firm page; there are other examples but I don't have the time to list them all. Furthermore, Red Dog31, Zerouh can't shield you from the rules and common courtesies on this wiki so I don't want any trolling here. ʇןoʌǝɹ pǝɹ  03:14, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, false accusations, threats, harassment of another Administrator. I wonder if Soldier still thinks you are worthy of being an admin on this site, Revolt.Red Dog31 03:53, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually Revolt, I block multiple accounts on times of 1 and 2 weeks without any thought to it generally. Not simply because they go one way or the other or what they do. Please stop cluttering up my page now, this is very bad behavior even for you. I can guarantee neither myself or Red had "spammed" anyones pages seeing if they were interested, we sent them one maybe two messages, is that "spamming" at all? You seem to have a lot of things you "can't go on about" or "don't want to list" or "cannot name", doesn't make a compelling argument does it? I also fully recognize Red's own actions on this wiki and I have never once shielded him from anything here, the rules apply to him as much as anyone else. ゼロウ  Talk __UT  05:58, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * All of you, stop the bloody arguments or I'll desysop and block you all permanently. Is that CLEAR? 14:51, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am advocating for that as well. ゼロウ  Talk __UT  14:54, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Bureaucrat
I have just added you to the bureaucrat group. You can now edit user groups by going to Special:UserRights, and there is now no "dictator". I would appreciate any and all help in keeping order on this wiki, especially because I just had to block Red for a week after he tried to create a mock RfB for me and provoke me on the RS Wiki. 23:29, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Gratz on B'crat 23:44, September 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Soldier I am very honored and I accept these responsibilities with all that I can. I believe that order on this wiki is vital these days and something must be done. Revolt has stepped out of line like many before him. I will do everything I can to preserve the order and to assist you with everything that must be done, this wiki has always been a top priority of mine and I will not let that change. Thank you all. ゼロウ  Talk __UT  00:02, September 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * And to you on becoming an Administrator. ゼロウ  Talk __UT  00:02, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * NICE JOB ZEROUH! You got what you deserved!Red Dog31 00:04, September 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * You have my many thanks Red, you have been of tremendous support to myself and this wiki. ゼロウ  Talk __UT  00:05, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Zerouh could you go on the site soon?Red Dog31 00:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Check your email
I've sent an email to whichever email address you have registered to your wiki account. It is imperative that you check it and respond ASAP. Thanks, 01:12, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying so quickly. I've also sent another reply, so if you could check that one as well it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again, 04:37, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Switched to new "Archive Box"
I've swapped you and Soilder's Archive Box to my new template "Archive Box". This will allow users easy powerfull customization. I thought this was important for multiple reasons but one being a more universal Archive System of course you can always undo this edit if you do not like it. If you have any questions feel free to ask. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091202161032/runescapeclans/images/3/36/Armadylgodsword.gif The Excel Talk • Clan • Union 22:27, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

The Exact same code I used on this page should work for them as well. I found that the part of that says Zerouh on them isn't very usefull because of the <user_talk:Zerouh button at the top left. So basicly a code copy you can click edit on the template in the editor to see the properties it supports which are some really really awesome features! If you would however like the part where it says Zerouh and points to your talk page I could add this function quite easy, if you want that just ask. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091202161032/runescapeclans/images/3/36/Armadylgodsword.gif The Excel Talk • Clan • Union 22:40, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Annother way to link back to your usr page with this new template would be to add a link to the image or the name depending on what is used. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091202161032/runescapeclans/images/3/36/Armadylgodsword.gif The Excel Talk • Clan • Union 22:46, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Yes I'm aware of the browsers popularity, I currently can't support IE fully on everything but I cover it where I can. I have not used images in most of the tempaltes unless they were already presnt for instance my signature is composed by the browser there isn't an image in it, because IE doesn't support the gradiants or shadow it will apear sqaure and plain black and white in IE. All other major browsers thou are fully supported =D

Union:Zerouh's Triumvirate/Ogamon Protocol
Does this mean you may leave the Triumvirate soon? 21:01, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Welcoming
thanks Zerouh, It'll take some time getting used to how it all works here. I'll let you know if I need any help with something, ill just stick to my page for now though I think. Arnold Ogamon 00:29, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Multiple Categories
Hi,

I don't know who to tell nor what to do but the wiki seems to have 3 pay-to-play clan categories and 3 free-to-play and pay-to-play clan categories:


 * Category:Free-to-Play_and_Pay-to-Play_Clans


 * Category:Free-to-Play_and_Pay-to-Play_clans


 * Category:Free-to_Play_and_Pay-to-Play_clans


 * Category:Pay-to-Play_clans


 * Category:Pay-to-Play_clan


 * Category:Pay-to-play_Clans

Hopfully you know what to do to stop the confusion,

Thanks, 03:43, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

A question
I saw that you blocked the unregistered user who vandalized the Clan of Twilight page and other pages for 3 months, however, it would seem unnecessary to do so because the edits were made over 4 months ago and according to normal wiki policies an unregistered user can only be banned at max for 1 month for his/her first offense. I just wanted to bring this to your attention, because I think you meant to block him/her for 3 weeks not 3 months. Thanks. 21:24, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Could you get links up for the unions on this List of Unions and add any needed. On the new theme that we will be updating into I've also added a menu just for unions and that's part of the project however it doesn't affect the current theme if you would like to see the new theme go to your settings > theme > new wiki look 17:14, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Clans Wiki?
Zerouh, I beginning to notice that a lot of pages not relating to clans have been created recently, such as Quests and Prayer. This pages rightfully belong to the regular Wiki and while I hope that the person who is creating all these was only doing these out of good faith, they need to be stopped and deleted soon.Red Dog31 15:10, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Clan video for youtube...
i ma making a video about clans. my account wont have many videos, the few i have, i filmed on my bad laptop. i can film in good graphics, and i was wondering wether i could make a video about some clans, including yours. if you want to, please send a in-game message to the user: Omni Exiled. thanks a bunch,

Omni Exiled.

Hey
Would you mind adding your feedback to Forum:Use of AWBs on this wiki? 21:09, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Wars
Zerouh, I've added The Uhnul War and that Cold War we had with AoS to the list of Wars/Past Conflicts section in the Triumvirate War Department page, but I'm still unsure about the dates of the wars. Could you please fill them in? Thanks! 15:09, October 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Fixed red link on Red Dog31's post. 15:20, October 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Technically the Uhnul Conflict was an intelligence conflict, it is listed on the intelligence page. I will fix the dates on that page. There wasn't really a cold war either since we did not agree to any form of conflict and the branch never approved any actions. 20:53, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you archive the things you have deleted on your talk page because, blanking/deleting parts of talk pages is considered a violation of wiki policies, unless the edits were: clear copyright violations, grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material against a person, group or organisation, or were purely disruptive material. Thanks. 21:11, October 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I am looking over them now. Many of them have no use currently which is what I am trying to weed out. 21:22, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's understandable, however, could you archive the ones you delete. 21:39, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Removed?
Zerouh, why'd you remove the wars I listed on the Military Page? I understand that we are an Intelligence-striving peaceful Union, but wars are a part of our history that we should take pride in. That too, it's only two. We don't want to sound like wimps you know. 02:25, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

No problem, but what of the Cold War? 17:51, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Empire
I am in the Empire clan, run by Emperorhster, nice to meet you

Cptn aubrey 02:59, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Again
Zerouh, you seem to have missed my second post, so I'll restate it. What of the Cold War? AoS has mentioned it. Surely we have the right to state our side of the conflict. 15:12, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

The United States Cold War is a major event in US History. I think it should be one in ours. Everything you just said is the exact definition of a Cold War. I really do think we should add it. 11:19, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

I hate to do this but...RfA
I don't like being an admin and I do not want to be one but it is out of necessity that I am requesting for sysop rights, the main reason for this request is for my AWB account, it will not work unless some coding is changed and some pages are moved, I am unable to edit some pages do to protection. To clarify, this is a RfA for both my AWB account and I, my AWB is requesting adminship to edit protected pages on this wikipedia project. I have gone over the policies more than a few times because of my previous experience as an admin/b'crat on different wikipedia projects, I hope you don't take this request lightly and that you take a long hard look at my edits and attitude toward my fellow editors. Thanks. 02:08, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - User has made countless edits to categorize pages, remove red links, etc., and sysop powers would magnify the usefulness of AoSBot. 21:18, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose- User will turn out to be exactly like Red Revolt. Don't need another one of those. 15:10, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Commment - I think that's an unfair accusation. They aren't as similar as they may appear. 18:21, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment- User also displays similar traits to the past enemy King Aeraes. 20:42, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * See above comment 21:23, October 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * My apologies for taking so long to get back to you, I have just now seen it as I did not notice it either. Please give me some time. 01:54, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's quite fine, there is no need to rush a decision like this. 01:55, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Haha, I was told no one responded to RfAs here, glad to see your comments. = P 21:20, October 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * At this point in time I am going to have to decline your request. 13:32, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Alrighty, have a good day. = ) 21:53, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I almost forgot the most important part; can you tell me, as a third person, where I can improve my characteristics as an editor here? 21:39, October 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Time is important, though I would review other users as well. 23:29, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, yeah, on the wikis I used to edit on it was common to get other opinions on how you can improve and benefit the community, I always thought it was the most important part of an RfA, but that's just me. = P 23:55, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

Uhnul
Zerouh, would it be all right to create a page regarding the Uhnul Conflict? It's not like we're the only ones who dealt with it (Kaiser Blade and CELTHES were involved also) so it wouldn't be a mystery. Plus, it's something we should be proud of. Having taken down a major Internet threat.-Red Dog31 (couldn't sign, have to go!).


 * I would recommend contacting Ascencia, he probably already has an accurate timeline and his opinion, as it was an intelligence operation, is likely more critical than mine. 01:52, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I was just asking for your approval to create a page. I assume by your previous message that it's okay to do so 02:15, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Universal Triumvirate Template
Zerouh, noticed this box on your user page that says your part of the Triumvirate. Could you perhaps put it on my user page? Thanks! 15:08, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Review of policies
I was reading through the policies listed on this wiki and I noticed that it did not mention the appeals process nor the distribution of user tools (e.g. rollback, sysop etc.). First of all I think this wiki, as many others, should have an appeals process if an user thinks they have been incorrectly banned/blocked. Finally, I believe that the distribution of user tools should be more clearly defined, being that tools should only be distributed if there is a benefit, in the view of the community, to this wiki. Reply soon. = ) 22:29, October 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * If a user is incorrectly banned they may post so on their talk page as that is left open in bans. I am a little unclear what you are referring to on the topic of user tools. 22:54, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes I understand that they can edit their talk page but our policies do not explicitly explain the process of this, and many stripped of their right to edit their talk page even after their first edit. Also, user tools are tools given to a user after their user rights have been changed by either a Wiki Staff member or a B'crat. 22:59, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * You are asking for additional explanation of our policies? I understand and I will get to work on it as soon as I can. 23:06, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm aiming for something of the sort, I also think that amendments/additions to current policies should be discussed on forums. We have around 4 active editors, somethings need to be changed and enforced differently, and forums are a great way for people to communicate their thoughts, I hope that you will participate if a forum is made. = ) 23:09, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I will indeed participate once a forum is made. I am rather busy lately though. 23:17, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Seems like we're all busy as of late. Cheers mate. 23:19, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Quite so, likewise. 23:28, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Cleaning Deletions
Hiya, I was just wondering if you could go to the 'Category:Speedy_deletion_candidates' page and clean it out. Delete all the pages that you think should be deleted or removing the page from the list. I'm only asking cause the category is suppose to be "speedy" and some of the pages have been there forever =P thanks, 23:30, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Eh-hem

''Vandalism — Blocks should generally not be used against isolated, minor incidents of vandalism. If an IP has done much vandalism, then give them a three to six month ban. If they did minor vandalism, such as less than three incidents, then limit the block to less than a week. IPs should not be blocked for more than six months. Even if they did a huge amount of vandalism, they still should only be blocked for six months (a year maximum). User accounts may be blocked indefinitely if they do a large amount of damage. ''

'''Aeraes has been blocked far over 6months and I concider a fight minor vandilism. ''' 17:02, October 30, 2010 (UTC)