User:Zerouh/Archives 4

Archived
Archived. 23:41, December 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for doing that, I've been busy lately. I appreciate it very much. 00:28, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Lucky Goose
Hello Zerouh,

The only questions I have is: how many, and what are the other clans in the Union.

I'm thinking about being in the government, what positions are available, and it is the same clan page, since i made the Assassins one before my clan leader knew. (i was planning on becoming unofficial leader of that clan)

My email is sekamin322@gmail.com.

My rs account is spence32296 add me. What is yours? since that is a more productive way of talking than going back and fourth on the talk pages.

Thanks,

Spence32296

Deleting Pages
Would I be able to get you to clean/sort through the following deletion request pages:


 * Category:Speedy_deletion_candidates
 * Category:Votes_for_deletion

Thanks 05:34, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Credit
Zerouh, I read over the Constitution History page you created and I was wondering if I could be credited for the War General and Administrative Branch ideas.

Also, it would probably be better if you put the Amending process before the History.

Also, the Risk Analysis position was merged with the Disaster Prevention position. You should probably say that instead of it was entirely removed. 21:53, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

ok thanks! i will!

The Legion
The Legion will be very happy to accept sir.as for partnership, your clan may ask us for anything too. all I need is to know your Runescape name and if you are the leader of that clan. My RS name is Fang Steelx so I will hopefully meet you today on the 19th. May Guthix be with you!

Fang Steelx 21:44, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Assistance on the Wiki
haha Thanks - I'm glad to see someone notices =P I'm always happy to help. I do like editing this wiki cause there's a lot of things that can be done. Always gives me something to do when I'm bored. Thanks for the recognition. 06:19, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Article 2
Zerouh, in case you're wondering, I didn't change the Constitution. All I did was rearrange Article II so that it now looks a lot more neater and organized. I also added some links in there to other pages that pertain to said topic (it'll make sense if you look at it yourself). 15:47, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

My retirement
I'm sure this won't come as much of a shock to you since I haven't been active for awhile now, but I'm officially announcing my retirement from this wiki. I'll still be around on the RuneScape Wiki and you can always email me/leave talk page messages here if you need me, but I'll no longer be actively editing here. I leave this wiki in your capable hands. Good luck. 01:15, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * One last recommendation, though..try not to add any other bureaucrats or administrators unless the wiki really needs them. With only a few active editors you don't want an overflow of admins and b'crats. 01:17, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Zerouh help RuneScape!
If you know a way to display a site message globaly display this:

Bring back wilderness free trade and true pking to runescape Vote here!

19:58, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

An alternate view 20:19, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

The Legion
Sir Zerouh, the Legion will be honored to join the Universals but we fear that we do not know you well enough. Therefore, unfortunately I must say that I hope that we can stay allies for now. I hop you understand. Thanks for your reply and Happy Holidays!Fang Steelx 03:57, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Head Admin
Hey, cause your the head admin (now soldier is gone) I suggest changing this page to accommodate to the change. (i.e. making it your user profile to contact instead of soldier's). 04:37, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have done so. 15:35, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article
Just wondering if we can change the featured article? It's been up there, for what seems, forever and I was hoping to change it to the newly edited Clan page. I've added over 6000 more words to it describing the different types of clans and wars and I'm currently looking for more pictures to add to the article (it'd be great if you could help with finding some, cause I have no idea where to look).

So message me a response (support, disagree, comment) and hopefully we can change it soon. Thanks guys (sent this to Excel as well), -- 05:18, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

*ahem*
I do recommend having a look at my recent conversation with The Excel. I may be retired here, but I'm most certainly not completely gone, nor am I stupid. 15:52, December 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have been forced to desysop Excel after continued uncivil behavior and a forum topic that he created to stir up more flames. I guess my retirement might have to wait a bit. 21:29, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Zerouh. Either your going to support me or soilder. Take your pick, I'd really like your imput on his unacceptable behavor. I tried to stop a fight that he has not only continued but amplified. 21:27, December 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Excel, I respect you as a fellow wiki user but you have now made quite a few offenses in the last twenty-four hours. I do not want to side with either party on this argument exclusively but I do feel that Soldier has done the right thing. Please do not take this as a blame upon myself, as I said, I respect you as a wiki user, but this may have gone too far. 21:31, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

*sigh*
I've had no choice but to block him and protect his talk page for the next 2 weeks. As you can see from his behavior and outbursts (included repeatedly making a forum thread designed to stir up flames), he is no longer suited to be a sysop. 21:35, December 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * I can see that, it is a shame truly though I suppose there is nothing you, or I, could have done to prevent this. I suppose now we must watch this wiki on our own until suitable candidates for administrators come up. 21:38, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Excel
I'm sorry to seem like i'm moaning, i just think Excel's derank was unjust.

Towny 21:55, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Okay :) i just liked how he done his job, then took time to come to a clan event :P He is a very nice guy, yeah i shall let soldier deal with it. I am just a concerned person, who appreciated his contributions :) anyways merry christmas

Towny 22:03, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dark Orb 3(Excel)
Zerouh, This is a message from excel(since he is banned at the mement, I am relaying it. He just says to come to his clan chat(Dark Orb 3) to talk.                                                                                       ~Bellack the Demon Hunter


 * If you would, please tell him I cannot get in-game at the moment and that he may email me at "zerouhkoe@gmail.com" if he wishes to speak with myself. Thank you. 22:18, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!


Thank you. = ) 22:49, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Happy 400 Holidays!
My message may not be as EPIC as AoS Wannabe's, but nonetheless, I would like to wish you Happy Holidays Zerouh!

As for the 400, well....YOU'RE MY 400TH EDIT! Double Cheers! 00:48, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

E-mail
Check your emails pleaaassseeee


 * and

01:05, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I sent you an email too. 01:22, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Check again pl0x 01:32, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Request for Adminship
Zerouh my friend, the time has finally come where I, for the third time I believe, ask this Wiki for the tools of a Sysop. I hope I'm not too late in my request. As I said to Soldier a while ago, that I would ask for Adminship hopefully by Christmas, I have not given up on my word :).

Anyway, I should be an administrator for a few key reasons. 1) My helpfullness. I'll admit, I haven't been as active as I used to, but I can assure you that that, that time period is over. Before that all happened, I was a pretty good editter. I helped the wiki community by ridding pages of vandalizers, creating new pages, helping to stop arguments, etc....When I was granted rollback rights, I never once abused this power. Only helping my fellow Wikians. 2) My Change. When I was new on this wiki, I was quite the flamer, getting into heated arguments with other such figures such as King Aeraes. Through my actions (and their subsequent consequences) I have learned that in most cases, peaceful debates outdo heated ones. I have changed a lot in the many months I have been on this wiki, making good friends, losing enemies, and earning the trust of others.

It is with these two reasons that I ask once again for Administratorship on the Runescape Clans Wikia. As Barack Obama once said, "Change We Need". Who better to grant sysop powers to than one who has had good experience. Who has come out of the dark times and into the light. Who has so much to contribute? Thanks! 02:03, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - A bit late, but 84 edits does not a sysop make. 16:21, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!
Zerouh, thank you so much for the grant! I promise you that I won't abuse these powers, and use them to help the Wiki however way I can! 03:27, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

E-mail
-pokes- Check your e-mails pleaaassse + Merry Christmas (for real this time)  05:09, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Red Dog31
It should be pink by now =/ Have a look for yourself: MediaWiki:Wikia.css/hilite. The code is all right...

Testing link: User:Red_Dog31 07:19, December 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just looked at it again; I did a space instead of an underscore. 07:20, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Well.
You have to understand, I never bore you or the Triumvirate personal malice, I just disliked how it worked. What I'm not so sure about is scandal raising? Is this in the period when my account was hacked? Exo Malakai

Just one of those times you look back and see you've been a bit foolish, maybe. Well, after I left, I was hacked a week or so later. Lost most of my stuff. I then heard I was 'spreading scandal' around. Can you shed any light on that? Exo Malakai

Can't remember when exactly it was hacked or recovered, but some time ago. Real life has kept me busy since around then. And yes, I found a lot of edits which I didn't remember. Exo Malakai

...Oh dear. I apologise for this. While I do not exactly support the Trum, I do not hate it either. You have my apologies. Exo Malakai

Well, I hope I've made some of 'My' actions clearer, at least. Exo Malakai

Deleting
Hey, I was just going through Special:ShortPages and I was just wondering whether your ever going to use: If not, am I right to delete them? 03:49, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Union:Zerouhs_Triumvirate/Sacred_Band_Royal_Infantry, or
 * Union:Zerouhs_Triumvirate/The_Elite


 * Thank you for directing my attention to these, no I was not going to use them. I have deleted them. 03:54, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Saradomin's Knights
we are a new clan and we would like to join the alliance, my in game name is the same as this ones, x fullsara x

Quietly slipping back into retirement
Now that things have settled down, it's time for me to go back to retirement from this wiki. Once again, good luck, and remember that I'll always been around if you ever need any help. 08:15, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hey is there anyway i can make The Divide <-- my clans page only editable by myself or rs wikia staff members, cause i am getting annoyed with Vandals who are against TD i am the original creator of the page

Towny 13:01, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Binarypigeon & Graceful Justice <- they were clan members but then the clan disbanded now they have turned rouge and keep editing random stupid things onto the Clan page :/

94.4.77.200 20:56, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

^ that post was me about the 2 rouges ^ forgot to log in

Towny 20:59, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

:/
Okay but just prepare for epic hate or lies against me Towny 21:04, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Okay thank you, i appreciate it. Towny 21:08, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Exo
I know we have no love for Malakii, but even he deserves to have his name mentioned as a past Executive. Was he not the first Military Representative? 00:01, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Also, Anarchy Dies (I believe) served as the Head of Clan Relations (Head of Management) first, so you should mention that as well. 00:01, January 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Anarchy I am actually looking into at the moment to see if it was at the correct time of the rearrangement into the Executive Branch from the old council system and Malakaii never served as the first military representative. The military used to be a very different system for us in which there were "flanks". He led one of them. 00:34, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I could've sworn you told me that Malakii was the First Military Representative. After he left, Anarchy Dies took control of the Position. 00:55, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * If I did I was mistaken or must have mislead you. The Military Representative was not even a true position until the military reform. The military was in the flank system before that in which each flank had an individual leader and reported to myself. 00:59, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Featured Clan
We need a new featured clan. Any suggestions? 07:29, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Airblade86
Zerouh, since you're the Head of the Wiki now, I was wondering if you could remove Airblade86's (Sjblade) B'crat powers. I know he left, but just in case he does come back. He abused his powers before, yet was never punished for it. You know that as well as I do.-- 16:14, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Clan related info
This seems like a good thing in regards to the UT http://services.runescape.com/m=news/clan-logo-design-competition.

Re:
Zerouh, like I said, I may be busy. I'll try and help this weekend. Tell me what "lots of work" needs to be done, and I'll do it. I'll start looking into Userboxes, and see if I can't develop any of my own. 01:36, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Also, did you answer my first request regarding Airblade86? 01:36, January 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * I cannot remove a rank from a bureaucrat I'm afraid. 01:48, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hey there, can you give me some tips on making a page?

Archive
Archived 05:41, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

What Needs to be Done?
Surprisingly, I'd much rather take orders than issue them. Inform me what job needs to be done, and I shall do it.

P.S. Get  certain  people to stop watching any pages related to myself. It's annoying, and quite honestly creepy. 22:01, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Is there a page that shows how to create templates, images, and example Wiki pages? Cause I can do all but that. 23:11, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Spencemac?
Is Spencemac an Admin or B'crat on this wiki? Cause on his page he says he's a B'crat. 23:37, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Really? I thought he was, like, a corrupt user. 00:11, January 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * There you go throwing that around again. 00:17, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Administrative tools
I think we should enforce this a bit more strictly, only giving administrative tools to users that could really benefit this project with the extra tools. After having 3+ incidents with administrators being punished in the last 6 months, I think there needs to be a clear line that's drawn to prevent further problems. 18:21, January 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree, with the recent event I and, I am certain the other administrators as well, will be much stricter in our larger decisions. 00:56, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'm Back.
So..I was told I'm unblocked, so I thought I'd leave a message saying what's up...

So yeah, what's up? Lol. ZeroStrikr 01:43, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Forum
Please take a look at this Color Blind Improvements 16:23, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Fang Steelx
Hey Zerouh how is the Universal? Is everything fine? I haven't heard from you for a while... E mail me if you need any help.

Executives?
Where have most of the Executives been? 03:45, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Zerouh
You are one consolidated uniquely captivating idiosyncratic individual Zerouh. I hope that's not too esoteric or enigmatic of a proclamation...

Huh
Seems our old friend trollindawiki is back........ and for some reason Japanese symbols don't work here......interesting 19:19, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Deletion re-write
Hey, I have painfully re-written the deletion and speedy deletion policies here - Can I get you to have a look and support/deny or recommend any changes, as I hope to implement the new policies asap. Thanks! 06:08, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Sigh
Shame about Red though in the end cheaters never prosper for long. I thought it was kind of strange that he would apply for war general when he was in an entirely different branch. 23:21, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I guess this explains why Red asked King and I for a general rank. Another step towards me liking the Tri ;) 00:41, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ha, I'm sure you can guess how it turned out. Needless to say that if he had, I would have quit and gone somewhere else. 01:07, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

King is not interested. 00:22, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Stop
Just cause I'm not in the Tri, doesn't mean that I'm not here. Stop talking behind my back. Zerouh, you of all people should be setting an example for the, as you yourself put it, "The less intelligent" 02:57, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, Your still here and doing some excellent edits!
Wow..You probably don't remember me but I sure remember you!! So much has changed in my absence and I hope to catch up on it all. I was scanning the ZT and there is like 10x more pages now when there was when I left and it all looks very interesting. I hope we can speak more often. 00:22, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

(Your not still in conflict with Red and King and that lot are you?!)

News Page
Zerouh,

Amanecer is going through some huge updates with the expected release of version 5.0 of our site. With this update our wikia page will be completely revamped. In doing so, we'll be generating some hot media that will be captivating and interesting to the wikia audience. We hope to have our news placed on the wikia's news feed, as we think it'll bring in more readers to the site. In order to do this, would it be possible that we could have our news placed in the spot of the wilderness guardians (since they have been on there for quite some time), and if not then could you turn the news columns into threes and add ours to it. Thanks.

Keep in touch,

07:01, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

how?
how do i add my clan on the list of clans?Could you please help me?

Joining the Triumvirate
Hello there Zerouh I am Sir Frogdroc owner of the Shadows Claw. I would like to join this union as not just a government based personal, but a Ambassador of Peace. I realize this job does not appear in your constitution thus I am asking for it to be created for my joining if you allow me to join. This job would include me seeing the clans of The Triumvirate and making sure peace occurs. I would also be useful in situtations where internal conflict within the union would occer/ My role would cause peace and make sure that no personal turns to violent actions over verbal conflict. If you will not consider me joining as this new position I offer then i wish not to join. If you wish to contact me send me a message either on my account on www.runescapeclans.wikia.com or send me an email at rfspeedie44@aol.com. Thankyou for your time reading this message and respond with your answer as quickly as possible.

Zerouh
I won't waste your time. I shall cut to the chase: I would like to be put on trial. I would like to settle our problem.

Darkness

When
When will the court be open?

I will be in touch until then. Darkness0988 15:59, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

What is the status of the courts?

Vandalism
It would strongly appear, that after two large acts of vandalism on numerous Triumvirate pages, that someone does not much care for us. I have accordingly adjusted the more lengthy, at risk pages protection so that only either myself and other administrators can edit them or so that only registered users can edit them. All of the clean up from these two attacks on the pages appear complete but it is curious to note that no other pages besides Triumvirate pages were vandalized. Truly some group must hate my work. 16:21, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Adding to this the aos page had a few edits that opposed the triumvirate..... 16:23, February 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I saw that, I believe they were reverted as well though. This is an issue though, I do not believe I have ever seen two acts of vandalism so targeted and so wide stretching across a single target. If it happens again I will put additional protection on the pages. 16:25, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * His name his Mr. Wiggles, as goofy as that sounds. He wants to know about the courts. Look at my page. I have seen people like this before, he's trouble.Darkness0988 19:57, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * I will create one to talk, I have something important to ask.
 * [mailto:thedarkness0983@ymail.com thedarkness0983@ymail.com]Darkness0988 20:25, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Why do those pages need an indefinite protect? Why couldn't a 1-2 week protection work? 20:20, February 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Jim is correct; according to basic wiki policies, you can only indefinitely protect a page if it is under constant vandalism for a prolonged period of time. I understand that there have been many cases of vandalism for the last two days, however, it would be best to leave the pages fully protected for at most 1-2 weeks as Jim said.  Cheers,  21:16, February 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * My apologies, I didn't even pay attention to the time while I was doing it. I will change the notable ones down. 22:28, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blocking
After a block could you post Template:Ban appeal followed by your signature on the user's talk page so that they are aware of their rights. Thanks, 21:24, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Email
Check your email. It's important 22:38, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Featured Clan
I seriously lol'ed at that person's message on my talk page anndd thanks for replying for me  06:45, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Union:Zerouh's Triumvirate
Zerouh! Are you honestly leaving the triumverate? o.O I never expected that to happen... So will you be sticking around here? 01:00, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Uniform templates
I recently went through some trouble to greatly remove the limiting code of the old infobox. All styling should now be unlocked :) I noticed the tri box uses it's own template. Just wanted to let you know that you can now use the main one again. 01:14, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Red: http://runescapeclans.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:EmperorHester you sure he's not allowed in here?

Link colors
Hi Zerouh. I just want to pass through you the following: Because Excel is partially color blind he has asked the community here if he can change the color of admin, 'crat and bot links to a more recognizable colors that stand out. It had majority support and the result is:


 * Purple for Admin (the same)
 * Green for 'crat (a non-fluoro version)
 * Orange for bots

It's not that bigger change, but if it helps more users then I don't see why not. I'll wait for a response of your opinion before I do change it. Thanks, 00:39, March 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi there, you still active here? :o 08:52, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Featured News
I hope you like my changes. It also supports background Images and a variety of other features :). It'll be interesting to see how it's used. 20:10, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Block
Could you take a look at and implement it on the user that was blocked earlier today? Cheers, 22:14, March 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey Zerouh, can I get you to have a read through this page: Forum:User Block Policy Re-Write, and comment and add any further suggestions. Thanks! 06:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

It's Me Again!
Hey Zerouh, how are things?

Azorrez 09:50, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Promotions Proposal
I’d like to propose a promotion for myself to B’Crat status. Primarily for security reasons, you’ve been hacked once Zerouh without another B’Crat (Active B'Crat) there would be no one to stop your account from potentially destroying the entire Wiki.

Also I’d like to suggest the promotion of Offside & Chaos. They have made wonderful edits and combated a load of vandalism. I believe they truly deserve it. Not to mention it would save time if they can delete a spam page or block a user before one of us 3 is available.

Soldier once said we have too many admins or rather enough. I’d like to disprove that by saying we have many editors -- I belive over 60 votes last poll -- not all are highly active but they exists. We 5 besides -AoS who shot down the offer - are the police here and are the most active it only makes sense to add Offside & Chaos to our list of Administrators.

Thank you, 02:29, April 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * I must point out something in what you stated to me "two bureaucrats and two to four administrators" We have 1 bureaucrat that is active -- Yourself -- and two administrators myself and Minigamegod. The only reason this actauly has came up is the spike in traffic since the clan update. Anyways thanks for your concideration. 23:49, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

The Universal Triumvirate
Hello Zerouh I am a leader in the Rogue Ninja Civilization and I was curious about the Triumvirate. Awhile back you sent us an invitation to join this union and the reason we didn't accept then is because it seemed a little strange and foreign to us. I was hoping you could maybe explain to me in simple terms what the Triumvirate is about and what the benefits are of the Rogue Ninja Civilization joining such a union.

Thanks for your time

Purewildman 05:18, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for explaining more. This is starting to sound really interesting, I will look over the constitution and bring it up with our leader, Shikimoko4 to see what he thinks. We are very select with our allies but I see no harm in joining a union that is this organized. I will either have him message you or just message you myself after we've decided, thanks again for the information.

Purewildman 21:38, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

thank you
thank you, i will try my very best to help you guys keep this wiki in tip top shape because i know how hard you work on keeping it at its very best.

Ascalephus
Hi, i would like to join one of the clan in the triumvirate, but i am not able to contact them, i have been kicked from my previous clan :l.

Thanks.

Ascalephus 08:16, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I would like to join Ehtya, although he seems to have his private off or on friends, plus his clan has it's rank shield up, witch makes it extremely annoying if you want to join.


 * so, if i wish to join the triumvirate as a person, how can i do that? Ascalephus 08:02, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

About the Union
Hey Zerouh, sorry for such a late response! I talked to Shikimoko4, our clan leader a lot about the union but unfortunately I don't think it falls in the best interests of the clan. We tend to be pretty focussed on our in game functions so we wouldn't have much time to invest in the Union. Also our relationships with other clans are sparse so it would be a big shock for us to suddenly be allied with several new clans. Best of luck though, who knows maybe we will have reason to join in the future? I will be here helping out with the wiki the best I can 03:58, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds great Zerouh. I'll let you know if things change or if I decide I want to join as an individual. Thanks a lot for your time. 16:33, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Criminal Page?
Zerouh, where is the Triumvirate criminal page? 19:40, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

i was in the past a war general, so i have experience on how to lead and deal with wars. i am good at most traits like financial or diplomatic, but war is where i am most valuable.

i can be either a diplomacy general. or a financial general. it is completely up to you. wich ever one is open i will take.

Ascalephus 05:48, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

User rights
The user rights group for User:UniTri Major Executive was set as B'crat for security reasons. However, I believe that a sysop or rollback would have been more efficient for the following reasons: Please don't consider this as anything else but a suggestion for future decisions and discussions. Cheers, 15:40, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) B'crat user group cannot be removed unless a Wiki staff member is contacted and there is a community consensus.
 * 2) Sysop and B'crats have the same abilities except B'crats can promote user groups.
 * 3) Any edits made by a hacker can easily be reverted or rolled back easily.
 * 4) Also you if your secondary account stays a B'crat, please remember that it will be considered a bot thus it does not have a say in community decisions.


 * I fully understand your statement. I have no intent to use this secondary account to get a "second vote" on any matters, do not fear. The use as a bureaucrat is in preventing any hacker or infiltrator using a bureaucrat account to promote other individuals. That way if I lose my standard account and others are promoted to sysops due to such a hackers agenda, I can reverse it with the secondary account. I have put some thought into this, so I wouldn't be too concerned, it is simply a method to ensure further security on the Wiki. I may consider converting to this new account professionally for Wiki matters and dropping this one or so on but that has yet to be considered fully enough. 16:07, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Building on your point, say the hacker had some common sense and made his "puppet accounts" B'crats as well, your secondary account cannot change the "puppet accounts" from B'crats to normal users. So there is no point in having that account as a B'crat, as far as I can see sysop or rollback would preform the same tasks under these conditions as would a B'crat. 16:20, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Or you could habe B'Crated me or Minigame? IK I might not have been very active recently but I'm still one of the first ppl to get notified when something happens... 18:31, June 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I do not feel this is a large issue at the moment. It is a simple security procedure and should be taken as such. I suggest we put it behind us. I will be building upon my plan for this and further Wiki security shortly. 19:19, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think we need to start a discussion forum. = ) 21:01, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan to me 21:08, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Please look at this page. 23:13, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Archived
18:46, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Umm...
"ANNOUNCEMENT ON WIKI FUTURE: On the day I leave, June 25th, I will be giving my wiki responsibilities and account to a good friend of mine (whom I know personally). He is very familiar with how things should be done and how a Wiki community works (probably more so than I) and has agreed he will do so for me. I have also instructed him on this Wiki in particular and he is, after all that I have explained to him about this Wiki, very capable of handing it. We have agreed he will manage my duties here until he finsd another user suitable for a bureaucrat position, at which point he will check with me and if I overview it and agree it shall be official. I will also be overlooking his work here from time to time to be sure everything is occurring as necessary. He will be attending to things on this wiki for me so please treat him with respect and give him the support you have given me. My many thanks. "

NO. I don't know what your planning and I don't care if you know him personaly. You can't just B'Crat or Admin whomever your please... If they don't have expirence here then NO. We (the wiki) are a community, and you sir are a gaurdian. That means, you can't just throw in whomever you want without OUR (All active users) approval. 01:10, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Zerouh this decision exceeds the ignorance you portrayed in the incident from last week. You yourself agreed to follow the guidlines set by this forum, particularly the RfA/B/R guidelines. You cannot single-handedly promote someone to the rank of B'crat, Administrator, or even Rollback without the community's consent. If you're adamant about what you are doing, then the community and I will see to it that your account will lose it's B'crat powers on June 25, 2011. 01:38, June 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, he will be using my account (not being promoted into any account) UNDER MY SUPERVISION, DOES have experience, and will be personally monitored by myself on a multitude of occasions. If anything he is but an assistant to my role here. You do not have the jurisdiction to command what I do in this situation, you, however much you may disagree, do not control my actions on this Wiki to the entirety. I do not feel you understand that insulting me and my decisions, which are for the better of this Wiki, will not help any one of us out. I have viewed all of the polices on this and there is no critical issue with it, especially since I will be managing and overseeing most of his work here. Wannabe, do not threaten me. Just because I will be PARTIALLY leaving this Wiki soon DOES NOT mean I do not pay attention or take any such statements lightly. Is this clear? 05:50, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, oh great overlord of the wiki, I didn't realize that a B'crat could over-rule a community consensus and established policies. Anyways, this really isn't a good idea since, as we have seen before, could backfire; shall I remind you of Red Revolt's and Red Dog31's time as administrators?  Also, I'm not controlling your actions, I'm telling you what others in the community feel, as you can see by The Excel's and MinigameGod's comments.  It would make more sense if this person would create another account and make useful edits before becoming a B'crat, as MinigameGod said.   12:54, June 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wannabe, I am not overruling any policies OR community opinion. Like I said, this is an idea I had to assist the community, not to disrupt it. If MinigameGod feels he can manage more responsibility than this is not necessary, I was only trying to give MinigameGod and the Wiki in general a hand while I am more busy. 16:44, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Ok this is getting rediculos. Zerouh we missunderstood that they were going be using your account? Ok? Second of all mabye you should have asked? Third of all even though I may have to leave for a while soon I'm still here and completly ignored in that comment. And fourth of all you can't just give people power like that. Using your logic I could give trolling da wiki my account un announced to anyone and expect everyone to be happy?!?!! You don't just give a unknown user maximum rights Zerouh. Thats not my opinion or an option either that just as good as wiki law. And you CANNOT and SHALLNOT do it again. 17:09, June 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * First, I have said that this is not final and that it was an attempt to give you all some support while I am less active. Second, I gave plenty of warning and issued a statement (exactly why we are having this discussion). Third, this is someone I know personally. Fourth, once again, I said this was to give extra support on the Wiki. If people do not desire this than it shall not occur. I believe that I have made that clear, you are only person who thinks I am trying to destroy this Wiki or something along that line. 17:13, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

King
Please take a look at this page. 04:15, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Unwise
Hi Zerouh, after reading the above comments I think you personally are very unwise to take this path. What you are planning to do, is honestly, utterly stupid and is against community consensus. You know as well as everyone here does that admins and 'crats are here only for the protection of this wiki, and giving the most powerful tools to a stranger (to us) is unbelievably ignorant. I honestly don't care how brilliant, trustworthy or smart this person is, no one here knows him/her (to my beliefs) and giving such power requires a community consensus.

If you go through with this however, knowing that this is through your account, I will not hesitate to immediately block this user if I feel he/she shows any attempt or thoughts to harm this wiki or it's users. So, take this as a warning to this account, to say if anything harms this wiki or it's users in anyway I will block it according to blocking policy.

If you want my advice, I consider telling this user to make a new account and after a month or two of being active and making healthy contributions, then you can 'crat him/her with community consensus. So, you can become inactive until the community sees fit. There are two active admins on here that actively protect this wiki so I don't believe there has to be an active 'crat at all times. Thanks for your time, and I will be looking forward to read your response. 07:32, June 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for remaining very calm about this. I have taken many of these things into consideration but I believe my original statement may have been misinterpreted a bit. I will be using my account still, simply I will also have this other individual assisting some work here as I cannot devote my full attention to it. I wanted to give you all some more assistance since I will be less active. If you feel that this is unnecessary I can still call this off entirely and things will continue as normal, I will simply be less active here (but certainly still checking in every few days). This person would be supervised by myself so you shouldn't have to fear even if he does use the account in the end. In essence, what I am trying to say is that this individual would be co-sharing (but under my oversight) my account just to do routine work. The large decisions would still fall to myself (such as policy changes, granting permissions, etc.), but because of all the work already installed into my account, and because it is under my priorities, I simply desired an "aide" so to speak for when I become less active. I hope that clarifies it for you and the others and I do sincerely apologize if there was a misunderstanding earlier. 07:42, June 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Again, I don't see why this user can't just make a new account? and your current account can just become semi-active? I believe that would cause a lot less fuss... But again, it is your choice, and I (and this wiki's community) have no control over what you do with your account. I just believe it will open your account to the possibility of hacking (and the safety of this wiki), and having the excuse of 'someone else was on my account' isn't an excuse that have any weight if your account breaks policy. 07:57, June 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the concern, I'm glad you somewhat get where I'm coming from with this. I understand the potential risk but I do have faith that things will proceed fine if this is how it ends up. I will consider it again, if you, being the active admin at the time (since Excel is leaving for a bit as I've heard) feel you can handle the full responsibilities on the Wiki then, like I said, this isn't necessary at all and I will simply become less active. Just let me know. 08:02, June 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Let me clarify something: I am not trying to argue with any of you, this was just an attempt to help you all out. If you feel it is not necessary, which I assume you all do, I can drop it entirely and we can forget about it. 17:16, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not arguing either. I'm telling. You did it the wrong way, don't do it again. 17:21, June 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * It was a suggestion which was not appreciated, that is fine and I can drop it. I do want to get a final word from MinigameGod though. 17:26, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Zerouh
Hi Zerouh (I responded on the site too to that measure you had), I just figured since I might be the next major or minor exec. for the Triumvirate in a few days I should start being more active here. I hate to bud in but, also, I don't want to sound pushy or anything but just cool down a little, you're fine. If anyone else sees this either, and sorry, I don't really know any of you but, let's just give Zerouh a break for a little too. He's got a ton on his plate right now what with a lot of pressure to get eveything done before he leaves the triumvirate, writing a bunch of final speeches, and trying to keep up what he's doing on here. Just know I can help out if you like around here, if just to get more prepared. Don't think I'm against you or anything but I agree that this might not have been a good idea either. So what though? You have great ideas all the time and like you said, you're just busy so you're trying to figure things out. Anyay, just letting you know I'll be around the wiki some more. Let me know what I can do to help Arnold Ogamon 00:00, June 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you Ogamon, and I'm sorry this was one of the first things you came to when you came to the Wiki today. You are correct in the fact I am immensely busy and I have been working for most of the past days to finish up many things for the Triumvirate in particular. Thank you for starting to take the news announcements up as well, that is very useful. What else you can do to help, I suppose, as you said, updating pages for us would be appreciated. Thank you very much for the offer, that will help out greatly. 03:45, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Pardons?
Zerouh, I did not find this on any criminal-related page so I apologize if this was somewhere and I am just wasting your time.

Can the Executive Branch issue Pardons to criminals (like the President of the USA can assign?) If so, how do you achieve one? Do you write for one to the branch and let 2/3's decide? 03:55, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

It's coming more or less.

What do you mean by it doesn't remove their guilt? 15:44, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

But it removes the title, correct? 16:41, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Zerouh, expect an email sometime today. I will be asking for a pardon and I would like it if you presented it to the Executive Branch.Red Dog31 17:29, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Update
 '''Hi, Can I get you to have a look at this page and contribute your ideas to the suggestion made. Thank you,''' 02:58, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

My farewell....
I know you said that you were to stop using your e-mail after you resign, but I wanted to say goodbye before left so If you could reuse that e-mail just once to see my farewell, it would be most appreciated. ZamorakAgent My talk 00:06, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Why did you protect those two pages? 23:02, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Update
 '''Hi, Can I get you to have a look at this page and contribute your ideas to the suggestion made. Thank you,''' 19:49, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Alright Zerouh lets talk. So here's what I've done: I have done this because of the increased risk on RuneScape of phishing. There are many people that would take advantage of the chance to add an un-noticed link to the front page. Which could very easily get threw the moderators of the wiki for enough time to potentially get someone hacked, scammed, or some other horrible thing.
 * locked the homepage to prevent vandals from adding maculos links
 * created notes on how to edit all content that has been edited in the past year on the homepage (everything except the what you can do to help sections basicly)
 * added templates for the notes that state exactly where to edit the content

Offside & AoS belive that these actions are unjust because of a Community Central based policy stating most wiki's should not lock their home page because it makes users think that they are largely overprotected and they can't be edited. The homepage has new lines of text right in view explaining how you can edit it. Making this concept anything but important.

One of my points is #3 of the simplified rule set states that you can break rules if they help keep the wiki in good shape. What AoS states as abuse is not abuse at all. I have done everything in my power to make this a legitimate action and have addressed all concerns brought up by the opposition (Offside & AoS) whom still don't seem to like it.

& no I haven't forgot you Zerouh I was in the process of creating an email to you, which I just deleted seeing how you are now visibly aware. If it is a crime that I'm trying to protect the users this wiki has, then let me be struck with the wrath of god. 03:09, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

See Zerouh this is what I don't get you guys are favoring a GENERIC wiki policy vs. policies stated here & some users have not said their opinions. I don't understand why we are compromising the user for a policy which has no point. There are many policies and you've broken some I've broken some Aereas has broken some and some of these are nessasary. I'm planning for the future in this and taking actions to make sure nothing is compromissed in this action. This is why i don't understand the problem

It's a GENERIC policy which is not strict if you read it, it's a recomendation! It never says YOU MUST DO THIS. It says you shouldn't block the main page just because it's the main page. In other words don't block it without a reason. This wiki's reason as I see it is we host for a game which involves a ton of scamming which we should atleast take minor measures like this to combat. Keep in mind this is only offside aos and now urself on this side. I belive Soldier and previouse admins would agree with me. Infact soldier blocked it awhile back, I unlocked it after AoS stated that it shouldn't be locked. After thinking more I saw a potental and re-blocked it.

I appologize for the outbirst but I really don't like putting other people at risk. I am not a selfish person, and I can present more opinions on this topic if i see fit. I really didn't break a consensus either there were only 2 people from our community that were against this at the time. As well as the fact NONE of my information was biast. Present one piece that can be considered bias. What is being questioned is the possiblity of it happening. Which as shown by many empires in ancient times is a poor practice as I'm sure a person like yourself would know. 03:31, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you are concerned about my former ways with Aereas in attacking people that's not this and I assure you will not lead to it. I just feel very strongly about protecting these people. 03:32, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps if you gave me the quotes of which u speak of? 05:42, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'll admit the outbirst Zerouh, and I must say they were with bad reason. But the bias submitting on information I deny, it's only bais if you see it as bias. 06:11, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Many people like what I say, many people hate it. I can't please everyone, and I really don't think it was an opinion about the home page but we will see in time... Lots of things happen unexpectedly & many of them could be prevented. 06:13, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I've talked to soldier, he convinced me it shouldn't be blocked. So lets end that & get back to normal life? After all I put what you did behide me let you do the same for my little mistakes now and then. It's not like I destroyed anything did I? :) Cya 07:08, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Zerouh, AoS Wannabe & OffsideJimothy are in no means the community. They are just members, and with no one else speaking up there is no way I was going to take it down. When more people spoke up and I talked to soldier I realized that it was wrong & wasn't just 2 people. So... Ya... & don't go threating me with this outbirst crap, it's no worse than what most others have done here & wasn't really that bad at all. Nothing worse than the fist fights that have happened in congress many of times. 17:18, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Also keep in mind that you don't posses ultimate power. I am a very good administraitor when I am avalible. I Handled numerous blocks, updated page, checking in with featured clan leaders to see if they need anything(Don't belive me ask the Leader of Sparta), created tons of useful templates, fixed broken templates, fixed css, cleaned signatures, created signatures, helped with coding, and settled conflicts. Before you do something stupid, keep in mind I still have contact with Soldier & very good friendship with several others. It's not as simple as ban Excel when he does something you don't like anymore, there are block polices and other things that protect myself and other users.

Unless I use horrible language, racial comments, and/or abuse my powers (which I haven't done thou some may disagree) you can't just ban me. If your mad because I use some of your former actions as examples of something, well quite frankly dude get over it. You did them just deal with it, they are not personal attacks they are examples. 17:33, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to put it behind me if you'd like to stop threating me.

"But I should warn you for the future, do not make outbursts against other members here and please do not present information that reflects poorly against others"

- Zerouh

18:02, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Sure? I never put anything on hold because of this thou... Cya, 19:23, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Question Mark
"Founded Zerouh's Triumvirate September 15 2009". "Zerouh member since September 16 2009".

Please explain? Also what's all this talk about something to do with your account all about?

Azorrez 09:11, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, I don't know if I know you. I'm the next Major exec. of the Triumvirate. Zerouh resigned and he's no longer with us, what can I help you with? I saw you also said something on the UniTri Majorexec account? I'm head of Triumvirate things on the wiki so what can I do for you? You can redirect all your qeuestions too me. Arnold Ogamon  Talk __UT  18:44, July 23, 2011 (UTC)